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CrunchySaviour · Post by **CrunchySaviour** » 29 Jun 2005, 13:58

If you ever find me behind the counter of McDonalds, BSc Physics or not, you have my permission to shoot me!

MileEnd · Post by **MileEnd** » 30 Jun 2005, 10:14

Hi all,

please let us know what you think of the following concrete suggestions :

Max. duration for the event : 3 days

period of time : 03. Oct. 2006 - 05. Oct. 2006

The Challenges :

1st day : All Lines Challenge, Circle Line Challenge, Zone 1 Challenge
perhaps 1 - 2 other challenges

2nd day : Alphabet Challenge, DLR Challenge, How many stations .... each line only once
perhaps 1 - 2 other challenges

3rd day : All Stations Challenge (275)

It's up to you now !

MileEnd · Post by **MileEnd** » 30 Jun 2005, 10:49

And another (better) possibility :

1st day :
Alphabet Challenge
Anti-Circle Challenge
Zone 1 Challenge

2nd day :
All Lines Challenge
DLR Challenge
Circle Line Challenge
How many stations can you do using each line only once Challenge

3rd day :
All Stations Challenge (275)

Post by **moley** » 30 Jun 2005, 12:26

Your second idea looks good.

A couple of points:
What is the Anti Circle Line challenge? On the first day you have about 10 hours of challenges without this one (A-Z is about 6?, Zone 1 is about 4? including a bit of moving around between each of them).

Day two is probably only about 7 hours worth of challenges so far (based on 2.5 hours for the DLR) but don't forget that you have to get to your Day 3 starting station possibly.

It is sensible to have the final day as the all stations challenge.

MileEnd · Post by **MileEnd** » 30 Jun 2005, 12:43

Hi,

The anti-Circle line challenge : You have to do all the stations, but not including the ones inside the Circle Line.

You might be right with the times, but we did it this way, because

> not all (of our) participants want to make an attempt on each challenge,
that means that 2 or 3 challenges could begin at the same time

> some guys will make attempts on the first and the 3rd day, so they will have a day off between (I think - viewing the 275 Challenge - it's better)

But well, we are open for discussing other suggestions, if you have another or better solution - then it's ok - just let us know

Post by **moley** » 30 Jun 2005, 12:54

If your guys are not all going to attempt each challenge then your plan is quite good as it is. I can understand the day off idea too.

MileEnd · Post by **MileEnd** » 30 Jun 2005, 13:07

OK, fine, then - for now - we should leave it at that

Any further details and/or changes can be discussed in the meeting in spring 2006 (or before - then post it here or in the German forum)

We are looking forward to that gr8 event !

hwolge · Post by **hwolge** » 30 Jun 2005, 16:28

I think you're all a bit ahead of things. I definitly share the general enthusiasm about a large international get together during the specified dates. However, I don't quite see the need to formalize things unnecessarily. After all - everyone is free to attempt any of these challenges at will.

Personally, when I'm eventually getting around to do the "real thing" (quite possibly these very days in October -06), I'll probably reserve a few days for it anyway - so if things turn bad early on the first day, I'll give it another try the next day or so... If things go well, I'll switch to one or more of the lesser challenges...

When it comes to the "World Cup Scoring" I would simply suggest a system like in the Athletics World Cup, where several (in our case any number of) groups/individuals go for different disciplines (challenges), and afterwards we can sum up the total score over all disciplins (challenges), per geographical team. Say a 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points scale per disciplin based on each group's/individual's best result.

As I said - no one can tell me that I'm not allowed to make a Guinness Record attempt whenever I like to - so why impose unnecessary restrictions?

On the other hand, specifying a pub or similar to meet every night (unless you're still doing the "real thing") would be great. Of course progress of any ongoing attempts would be reported back to this gathering... Also encouraging certain time frames for certain attempts would be ok - but let people do as they like, while still being part ov the overall event!

HÃƒÂ¥kan

Post by **moley** » 30 Jun 2005, 16:47

From my point of view - if my replies/comments came across as a bit formal then appologies - I was just making observations/suggestions from what had been posted before me - it was never an intention to formalise things.

On the same hand, you are correct - you can have a crack at it when ever you like. - and no one would try/would want to try to stop that - it's not the way we do things.

MileEnd · Post by **MileEnd** » 30 Jun 2005, 16:54

Hi,

I think that you're misunderstanding some things.

No one will make any restrictions on anybody for any attempt on the records at all.

Our first intention was to perform a German Tube Challenge 2006 only.

After we had that discussion in our (German) forum, then the discussion about a bigger event began here.

And that was the point to think about that great event - with more participants - with more teams - and so on.

So we thought that it would be a good idea to organize that great Challenge - also to meet other people being interested in that subject.

And I repeat : No one will make any restrictions.

Of course, you can make an attempt on the records whenever you like - and if you would like to do it alone - then that's also ok.

hwolge · Post by **hwolge** » 30 Jun 2005, 22:56

And I didn't mean to sound condescending or anything either! I'm looking forward to it regardless of the detailed forms. Just wanted to air my view on things. I'm sorry if it came across as critisism.

HÃƒÂ¥kan

yayrabies · Post by **yayrabies** » 03 Jul 2005, 08:12

hwolge wrote:Say a 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points scale per disciplin based on each group's/individual's best result.

Or Eurovision style

Nil Points

0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-12

G Force · Post by **G Force** » 03 Jul 2005, 17:11

MileEnd wrote:
And I repeat : No one will make any restrictions.

Of course, you can make an attempt on the records whenever you like - and if you would like to do it alone - then that's also ok.

Thats a very good point, as people should be free to do whatever challenge they want to, whenever they want to. If it just happens to be head to head against others, then that just makes it more fun.

But we can't say to someone for example, no you can't do the x challenge at x time, because there is already an x team doing the x challenge at that time.

MileEnd · Post by **MileEnd** » 03 Jul 2005, 18:01

That's it ! And exactly this way it was meant the whole time.

We just thought that it would be nice to have a time frame - and in that time frame each team can make their attempts on the challenges as they like. And it would be nice to have some days to meet other challengers.

The listed order of the challenges above is one possibility, and - of course - it's also possible to extend the time frame if necessary (e. g. if an attempt fails). No one will be forced (or whatever) to follow that order.

By the way : Our short trip to London will be the first weekend in March (4.-5.03.2006).

I hope that everything is ok now.

tpfkar · Post by **tpfkar** » 04 Jul 2005, 17:57

Hi, this sounds really exciting, and thankyou to everyone involved in planning it.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to have formal times for doing each challenge, as there was a good atmosphere when everyone did Zone 1 together. There are a lot of challenges though, I doubt that many people will be up for doing all of them, and would it be worth keeping the afternoon/evening of the second day free for socialising/sleeping/final route planning for the big day?

And are there any bunkhouses in Amersham we can hire?

Just wondering.

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