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southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 17:59
by iivell20
Hi, I'm new to the tube forum, so please forgive me if this is in the wrong category! Just an idea I though of:

Similar to the DLR challenge, but to visit all the stations on the Southeastern train line that are inside the oyster zone. These aren't included on the standard tube map but on the National Rail 'Oyster Pay As You Go' map. I believe theres 71 of them, starting with the big ones like Charing Cross, London Bridge and Victoria. I guess you could do the same for the other mainline operators that have a large number of stations in London, such as First Capital Connect, Southern, South West Trains and Greater Anglia.

Thanks :D

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 19:01
by tractakid
Any particular reason you chose SouthEastern?

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 19:02
by iivell20
Not really, only because it has the largest span of stations.

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 22:09
by Sam
Please don't go playing on my train network. It's busy enough as it is :P (SWT)

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 23:48
by Going Underground
Welcome iivell 20.... :D

I have often looked at this particular NR map section and thought that a challenge would be interesting....
There just seem to be so many lines and stations in the South

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 31 Oct 2012, 02:48
by Garion
One of the reasons (if I remember correctly) why the tube wasn't extended more into south London :)

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 10:57
by MylesHSG
Plus the rock is hard to tunnel through in Sarf London

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 00:36
by Garion
Yeah, I also remember loads of people saying that the geology is different south of the river compared to that of the north.

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 08:00
by tubeguru
South London is built on soft clay. It was discovered early on that it was not suitable for tunnelling, hence why the railways were given a free reign.

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 10:58
by snudge27
tubeguru wrote:South London is built on soft clay. It was discovered early on that it was not suitable for tunnelling, hence why the railways were given a free reign.
Is the line down to Morden a bit of a geological anomaly, then? Or is this what helped them to discover said unsuitability?

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 12:04
by Rhys1995
Just having a quick look at all the NR stations within a Travelcard zone.

Looks really interesting to do but I have a strange feeling timewise it would take similar to that of the Full Network! Having said that though I can always have a look at some routes for a laugh?

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 14:43
by greatkingrat
The problem is the frequencies. There are many stations with only 2 trains an hour, and some with even less (Angel Road and Sudbury & Harrow Road are both peak-only). So I don't think there is any way you could do it all in one day as you would lose too much time waiting for trains.

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 14:55
by Rhys1995
You just nailed it on the head GKR now I think about it.

A variation you could do of this event is saying you have to visit 40 NR stations and then meet back at a pub or something?

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 16:19
by Steeevooo
Or just don't do it at all :)

Re: southeastern train challenge?

Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 19:46
by tractakid
How many NR stations are 1tph or fewer? I can only think of the two peak time stations previously mentioned, and Wembley Central.