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Maybe they just didn't want to insult any of the medallists by giving them a station which has such a rare service
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Fair point, but I notice that all of the other bits of line go right up to the edges in terms of what's been included. Interesting spot!kateyay wrote:oh dear! That's fairly poor! It is sort-of on the edge of that section though, so could warrant being cut out by not quite fitting in, design-wise...tractakid wrote:Hmmm, it seems like Olympia wasn't even good enough to have a bronze medal winning horse name put in its place! In fact... it has disappeared from this map altogether. TFL practicing the new permanent map design?!
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Does anyone know where I can find the timetable as still nothing on JP
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Times for both exhibition and non exhibition days are here (check dates previously mentioned above for exhibition days):
SSuX: from Kensington (Olympia): 0550, 0606, 0615, 0624, 0632, 1958, 2038; from High Street Kensington: 1941, 2021
SSuX exhibition days (dates as advertised): from Kensington (Olympia): 0550, 0606, 0615, 0624, 0632, 1028 and half-hourly until 2300; from High Street Kensington: 1011 and half-hourly until 2241
SO: from Kensington (Olympia): 0553 and approximately every 15-20 minutes until 0739 then every 20 minutes until 2319, 2335, 2350; from High Street Kensington: 0656, 0710, 0725, 0741 and every 20 minutes until 2321, 2336
SuO: from Kensington (Olympia): 0735, 0758, 0805, 0819 and every 20 minutes until 2259, 2326, 2350; from Earl's Court: 0758; from High Street Kensington: 0807, 0821 and every 20 minutes until 2301, 2323, 2338
With thanks for PSUL (Passenger Services over Unusual Lines) for the times.
SSuX: from Kensington (Olympia): 0550, 0606, 0615, 0624, 0632, 1958, 2038; from High Street Kensington: 1941, 2021
SSuX exhibition days (dates as advertised): from Kensington (Olympia): 0550, 0606, 0615, 0624, 0632, 1028 and half-hourly until 2300; from High Street Kensington: 1011 and half-hourly until 2241
SO: from Kensington (Olympia): 0553 and approximately every 15-20 minutes until 0739 then every 20 minutes until 2319, 2335, 2350; from High Street Kensington: 0656, 0710, 0725, 0741 and every 20 minutes until 2321, 2336
SuO: from Kensington (Olympia): 0735, 0758, 0805, 0819 and every 20 minutes until 2259, 2326, 2350; from Earl's Court: 0758; from High Street Kensington: 0807, 0821 and every 20 minutes until 2301, 2323, 2338
With thanks for PSUL (Passenger Services over Unusual Lines) for the times.
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Thanks so for midweek I use SSuX then I guess?tangy wrote:Times for both exhibition and non exhibition days are here (check dates previously mentioned above for exhibition days):
SSuX: from Kensington (Olympia): 0550, 0606, 0615, 0624, 0632, 1958, 2038; from High Street Kensington: 1941, 2021
SSuX exhibition days (dates as advertised): from Kensington (Olympia): 0550, 0606, 0615, 0624, 0632, 1028 and half-hourly until 2300; from High Street Kensington: 1011 and half-hourly until 2241
SO: from Kensington (Olympia): 0553 and approximately every 15-20 minutes until 0739 then every 20 minutes until 2319, 2335, 2350; from High Street Kensington: 0656, 0710, 0725, 0741 and every 20 minutes until 2321, 2336
SuO: from Kensington (Olympia): 0735, 0758, 0805, 0819 and every 20 minutes until 2259, 2326, 2350; from Earl's Court: 0758; from High Street Kensington: 0807, 0821 and every 20 minutes until 2301, 2323, 2338
With thanks for PSUL (Passenger Services over Unusual Lines) for the times.
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According to TfL's leaflet produced when the Olympia services were scaled back ( http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ ... 11-dec.pdf ) you should check the Journey Planner to find out when exhibition services are running.
The FoI request ( http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/k ... a_services ) says that there should be an exhibition service operating next Monday and Friday. Yet this is not shown in the Journey Planner, so I haven't a clue (nor will the travelling public) whether it will be operating.
Presumably if it does operate hardly anyone will go on it, as no one will know about it, which will give TfL an excuse to scale back even further due to lack of demand.
The FoI request ( http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/k ... a_services ) says that there should be an exhibition service operating next Monday and Friday. Yet this is not shown in the Journey Planner, so I haven't a clue (nor will the travelling public) whether it will be operating.
Presumably if it does operate hardly anyone will go on it, as no one will know about it, which will give TfL an excuse to scale back even further due to lack of demand.
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Putting my legal hat on for a moment here, if TfL were to apply to remove the service altogether, using the aforementioned lack of ridership as evidence, could a challenge be put forward (not that we'd ever want to challenge the removal of Olympia!!) on the basis of procedural impropriety on the part of TfL?Nigel wrote:According to TfL's leaflet produced when the Olympia services were scaled back ( http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/ ... 11-dec.pdf ) you should check the Journey Planner to find out when exhibition services are running.
The FoI request ( http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/k ... a_services ) says that there should be an exhibition service operating next Monday and Friday. Yet this is not shown in the Journey Planner, so I haven't a clue (nor will the travelling public) whether it will be operating.
Presumably if it does operate hardly anyone will go on it, as no one will know about it, which will give TfL an excuse to scale back even further due to lack of demand.
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Er, yes?
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With the 6:15 out of Olympia (which I've done three times) I've only ever seen one other passenger board the train.
Mind you what would you expect at 6am?
Mind you what would you expect at 6am?
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Sorry, I'll try and 'laymanise' that a bit!tubeguru wrote:Er, yes?
I believe that I'm right in thinking that if TfL want to withdraw the Olympia service, they need to get Parliamentary approval? If this is the case, I would assume that TfL will have to produce evidence to support their removal of the service (most likely ridership figures etc.,).
Now if TfL are telling people to consult Journey Planner to find out whether an Olympia service is running on a particular day but are, as it would appear, not actually putting Olympia services on Journey Planner, surely one could argue that TfL are contriving to create false statistics as to the use of the service.
I guess (if it is deliberate) it would be equivalent to publicly announcing that the Olympia service isn't running, running it anyway, then using the fact that nobody used it (because they were told it wasn't running) to prove that the service isn't used.
If these facts are correct, and TfL are manipulating the statistics in order to be allowed to close the route, then it would stand to reason that one could challenge the decision through the Judicial Review process, on the grounds that TfL abused/misused the procedure in order to get the desired result.
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Am i wrong in the thinking here surely u want a closure (whether tfl do in an unhand or lawful way doesnt matter it still win win!)
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The most likely is a withdrawal of weekday service. This is where they gain trains and slots through earls court.
For this they don't need parliamentary consent as they will still be running a weekend service.
Restart the discussion on a weekend record.
For this they don't need parliamentary consent as they will still be running a weekend service.
Restart the discussion on a weekend record.
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Or even more likely, they will just stop the weekday exhibition service and still keep a couple of early morning trains (which have to come out of the depot anyway).
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or even more unlikely have just one train running back and forth with 2 drivers end to end 10min service turn around 1.5mins
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I don't think that a repeating one-and-a-half-minute turnaround will be permitted by the timetabling rules.
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