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Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III (terminated)

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 19:40
by tangy
Another set of my rail brainbenders. How many can you get correct this time around?

1. Apart from the difference in seating capacities, what is the only other difference between a FGW Class 165/1 compared to the Class 166?

2. What is the name of the short curve that trains can use to avoid reversing at Hull Paragon station?

3. Only two platforms at London Euston are regulary used by the full length train of the Caledonian Sleeper, which platforms are these?

4. The longest distance between two consequetive NR stations is how many miles? *to the nearest half mile*.

5. Although managed by Porterbrook Leasing, who actaully owns the remaining fleet of Class 155s?

6. What is the track guage upon the NI Railways system?

7. In signalling terminology, what is "RETB"?

8. Central Rivers rail depot maintains what class/es of multiple unit?

9. To permit running upon LUL tracks, what safety device do most Chiltern Railways DMUs have fitted to them?

0. How heavy, in kilos, is the DCML of a Class 185?

Deadline of 15th April 2010 at 20:00 hours

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 20:49
by Sam
Woo!! Submitted!! Woo!!

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 20:52
by snudge27
Ditto that one.

If I don't get 10, I shall eat my hat!

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 21:31
by tubeguru
How many did you have to look up though?

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 21:43
by palkanetoijala31
Submitted my answers correct out of 10 = 0 i have more chance of getting 1 right than chandrok winning tomorrow though.

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 21:44
by Sam
I doubt that Chandrock is even bothered about tomorrows race....

Oh you mean Chandhok :P ;)

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 21:47
by palkanetoijala31
Sam wrote:I doubt that Chandrock is even bothered about tomorrows race....

Oh you mean Chandhok :P ;)
see he is so unimportant i dont even no his name i hope tangy laughs at my answers though

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 09:29
by snudge27
tubeguru wrote:How many did you have to look up though?
None :wink:

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 21:32
by tangy
This quiz has now reached the end of the line. The following people submitted answers (in reverse order):

tubeguru:
1. There are numerous differences that 166's possess, including:
--First class at each end
--Opening hoppers on every other window
--Air conditioning
--Two toilets (a 165 only has one toilet per unit)
--Tables in first class and in one third of the middle carriage
--Dedicated cycle/luggage storage in the middle carriage
--Different interior panelling between the door and seating areas
--Grab rails painted in yellow instead of the blue found in the 165s
--First Class seat handles big and yellow instead of the small white ones found in the 165s
--Standard Class handles painted in yellow instead of the grey found in the 165s
One of those must be the right answer ...
2. Anlaby Road Curve
3. I was under the impression that they could use platforms 1, 2 and 16. If two of those are correct I demand my point!
4. Lockerbie to Kirknewton - 65.5 miles.
5. I'll go for the West Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive.
6. 1,600mm (5ft 3 inches)
7. Radio Electronic Token Block.
8. Class 220, 221 and 222.
9. LU-style Tripcocks.
0. 55,400 kilos. (55.4 tonnes)
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greatkingrat
1. 166 has air conditioning
2. Anlaby Road curve
3. Platforms 1+15
4. 65 miles (Lockerbie to Kirknewton)
5. West Yorkshire PTE
6. 1600mm
7. Radio Electronic Token Block
8. Class 220/221/222
9. tripcocks
0.
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Andi:
1. 1 is a steam train.?
2. Bermuda traingle
3. 1 and 2
4. 32.5 miles
5. doctor who
6. the andi postie guage
7. Right exterminate the bastard
8. they operate the multiple unit of pi
9. a battering ram
0. as heavy as a fat bird on a bus
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uefacup81
1. The 165/1 has "165/1" painted on it somewhere, as opposed to "166" on the 166
2. The Wilmington Curve
3. 6&7
4. 76.5
5. Timmy Mallett
6. 1,600mm
7. Racist English Track Builder
8. Classes 220-222
9. Two rabid dogs and a cormorant
0. 250t
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barrykas:
1. Hrm...There's quite a lot of difference between the two:
•165/1s have one 1st Class saloon (16 seats), 166s have two (32 seats)
•165/1s only have one toilet per unit, 166s have two
•166s have "full width" tables in First Class and part of Standard, 165/1s don't
•166s have luggage/cycle space in the centre vehicle, 165/1s don't
2. Anlaby Curve
3. By my reckoning, Platforms 2 and 15 are the only two long enough to take the Highland Sleeper.
4. Lockerbie - Kirknewton (avoiding Carstairs) at approximately 65 miles.
5. West Yorkshire PTE
6. 5'3" (1600 mm)
7. Radio Electronic Token Block
8. Classes 220, 221 and 222
9. Tripcocks.
0. 42000kg
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starkey:
1. Speed limit?
2. The go-around loop
3. 3 and 4
4. 17.5
5. Network Rail themselves
6. Standard gauge
7. Really EVL Train Brakes
8. It's a trick - there's no such depot.
9. Tripcocks
0. 10,001
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sam:
1. opening hoppers on every other window
2. Anlaby Road curve
3. Platforms one and fifteen
4. Carstairs - Kirknewton which is 18miles (17 and three quarters to be more precise)
5. Northern Rail
6. 1,600mm
7. Radio Electronic Token Block
8. Class 220, 221 and 222
9. Automatic Train Protection (ATP) equipment, manufactured by Alcatel is fitted as well as a tripcock system for operation on tracks shared with London Underground.
0. 168,500 kilos

Whilst you have a ponder over these, I will be preparing teh actaul answers and the all important scoring.

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 21:53
by tubeguru
I think I've spotted the person who's going to score zero on this one ...

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 23:10
by Starkey7
Yay I got one right! I really feel that if I didn't just answer with gut instinct (as in my Photo Quiz answers) I might score quite a lot more than one. :)

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 23:16
by tangy
The official answers from the quizmaster.

1. For this question I was looking at the major difference in how the two units are ventilated. Class 165/1s have hopper windows at every window bay whilst the 166s are air conditioned with a few opening hoppers.

The idea for this was that 165/1s were bult for the local stopping services like PAD-RDG whilst 166s were built to a higher standard for longer distance services to OXF, WOS etc. but nowdays they seem to be a common pool and any unit works on any diagram!

Since I specifically said "apart from the difference in seating capacities" answers which include extra first class seats, two toilets, cycle space etc. do NOT count as all these have an effect on overall seating capacity between the two classes.

2. This is called the Anlaby Road curve.

3. The Caledonian Sleeper (16 coaches plus two locos) are booked into platforms 1 and 15. Although other platforms are long enough for the entire length of the train, these are not booked for the Sleeper stock in normal circumstances.

4. The longest distance between two consequetive NR station is the 65.5 miles between Lockerbie and Kirknewton via the Carstairs avoider, a section of line which I find highly boring!

5. The remaining fleet of seven class 155s are owned by West Yorkshire PTE, the main reason that stopped these units being converted into class 153s.

6. The Northern Ireland (and the Republic of Ireland) track guage is 1,600mm (or 5'3" in old money).

7. RETB is short for Radio Electronic Token Block. This is a signalling system used on rural lines whereby electronic "tokens" are issued to drivers via radio from just one signalbox allowing the train to proceed into the next section. This is used on lines north of Inverness, the East Suffolk line and the Heart of Wales amongst others. This type of signalling howver requires trains that use lines so equipped to have a radio and a Cab Display Unit within the cab for communication to happen.

8. Central Rivers (CZ) depot maintains the Voyager fleet of trains. Classes 220 and 221. Note that the class 222s operated by EMT are maintained at the EMT depot in Derby and only visit CZ for major work/exams.

9. To permit running on LUL infrastructure, chiltern Railways fleet of DMUs are fitted with LU style tripcocks to prevent signals being passed at danger.

0. I got this question slightly wrong as the question should read "DMCL" rather than stated. The weight of a class 185 DMCL is 55.4 metric tonnes, which converted to kilograms is 55,400kg. A full class 185 three coach set weighs 163 tonnes.

There you go, discuss/argue amongst youselves...

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III (terminated)

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 06:29
by tubeguru
If I don't get at least 9 out of 10, you're banned.

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III (terminated)

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 06:59
by perkyperky
Is 0 out of 0 better than 9/10?

Re: Tangy's Rail Brainbenders III (terminated)

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 19:46
by tangy
Ok, the all important scores for Rail brainbenders III

tubeguru: 9 out of 10 (Q3 incorrect)

greatkingrat: 9 out of 10 (Q0 unanswered)

Andi: Zero out of 10 (all incorrect)

uefacup81: One out 10 (Q6 correct) [I was considering giving you a point for Q1, but the unit numbers are not actaully painted on the unit, they are transfers/vinyl stuck onto the cab front].

barrykas: 6 out of 10 (Q1, 3, 4, 0 incorrect). Use of the word "approx". in Q4 made you miss out on the the scoring as the word approximately to me means "in the general region of" and I asked specially for the nearest half mile.

starkey: One out of 10 (Q9 correct)

sam: 6 out of 10 (Q1, 4, 5 and 0 incorrect).

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