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CrunchySaviour · Post by **CrunchySaviour** » 04 Jun 2006, 12:15

I think this highlights the difference between starting when the doors close and starting when the train leaves - which could be more than five seconds...

barrykas · Post by **barrykas** » 04 Jun 2006, 16:59

CrunchySaviour wrote:I think this highlights the difference between starting when the doors close and starting when the train leaves - which could be more than five seconds...

True, but the rules are quite clear on the matter:

The clock must start the moment the doors close on the first train taken by the challengers.

It must stop the moment the challengers set foot on the platform at the last station.

Cheers,

Barry

nozzacook · Post by **nozzacook** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:45

A Big Congrats to all involved and its great to see the benchmark moved and proves the point every second counts again well done.

Root · Post by **Root** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:46

I think I'll definitely be holding the doors on that Amersham train for a few seconds when I do my challenge...

Post by **tubeguru** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:47

Cheat

Root · Post by **Root** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:48

Why is holding the first door any more cheating than holding any door?

Post by **tubeguru** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:49

True, but in the instance of the very first train, you're stopping the doors closing to gain an "unfair" advantage.

Holding doors DURING the challenge is not so bad, as you are only delaying yourself, as the clock has already started.

Root · Post by **Root** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:52

I disagree.

If I don't hold the doors on the first train of the day, I may be losing ten seconds. But say you reach the doors of an Olympia shuttle and your team-mate is a few seconds behind you - if you don't hold those, you'll be fifteen or more minutes behind automatically. So holding the doors then is more advantageous than holding them at Amersham.

Post by **tubeguru** » 04 Jun 2006, 17:55

As I said, with the Olympia train, you're losing yourself 10 seconds waiting for your teammate.

That's 10 seconds on to the overall time which would not have been added had you arrived before the doors started closing.

Root · Post by **Root** » 04 Jun 2006, 18:00

Even so, you'd be saving 14 minutes and 50 seconds by holding them. Obviously, ideally you wouldn't hold them at all, but after you have arrived there late you're still saving time by holding them.

So you seriously think it's be against GWR rules to hold the first doors of the day?

Post by **tubeguru** » 04 Jun 2006, 18:22

It's not against the rules.

But it could be considered to be against the spirit of the rules.

petermiller36 · Post by **petermiller36** » 04 Jun 2006, 18:41

i believe ive discussed this with your team mate Neil. He seemed to indicate that the occasional miss placed foot in the doors of the first train is an easy mistake to make.

Root · Post by **Root** » 04 Jun 2006, 19:29

Heh, indeed - "I was just standing by the door watching for the signal to turn green when the doors started to shut. I couldn't get my foot out of the way in time so the doors got stuck and had to re-open... about four times."

Going Underground · Post by **Going Underground** » 04 Jun 2006, 19:56

Gentlemen, gentlemen I am indeed shocked to hear of such behaviour and I thought you were all trustworthy souls and decent folk

Post by **moley** » 04 Jun 2006, 22:05

The first train should NOT be delayed - that indeed would be a very unfair advantage.

I've held a piccadilly train at Cockfosters before for over two minutes but that is at the risk of missing say a connection further down the line and suffering an even greater delay.

The stopwatch should start when the doors begin to close and stop when the doors are fully open. That way if you decide to delay the first train - the delay is incurred within your time.

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