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tubeguru wrote:

Iain wrote:I'm struggling to think of a Jam track that sounds anything like the Finnish entry - help me out someone?

So - circular pianos, trampolines, twins, giant hamster wheels and bearded women. Good to see it's all about the music and not cheap gimmicks!

I will be out fortunately.

Music hasn't been about the music in any form for many years now ...

That is always clearly obvious. Russia got votes ... for example

Going Underground wrote:She my arse, it's a freak of a bloke in a dress that performed a very average song

Does the fact that a drag queen won annoy you? Would you have been as bothered if it was a real woman?

tubeguru wrote:

Going Underground wrote:She my arse, it's a freak of a bloke in a dress that performed a very average song

Does the fact that a drag queen won annoy you? Would you have been as bothered if it was a real woman?

If a real woman had sang it then it wouldn't have won... The songs in 2nd and 3rd IMO were much better. And why keep saying "she" when the person is a he

Going Underground wrote:

tubeguru wrote:

Going Underground wrote:She my arse, it's a freak of a bloke in a dress that performed a very average song

Does the fact that a drag queen won annoy you? Would you have been as bothered if it was a real woman?

If a real woman had sang it then it wouldn't have won... The songs in 2nd and 3rd IMO were much better. And why keep saying "she" when the person is a he

Because when drag queens are in drag they usually prefer to be referred to by female pronouns. His/her Wikipedia page mentions this. It's a common enough thing with drag queens.

LAST TIME an austrian with amusing facial hair made that such of an impression in europe was 1939

I think it's time to dispense with the jury panels and just make it a public vote.

In that case Austria would still have won by a bigger margin.

nozzacook wrote:I think it's time to dispense with the jury panels and just make it a public vote.

The jury system exists clearly to stop the public simply voting for novelty acts, and to retain a modicum of musical judging. This was proved this year in the case of Poland. The British public voted Poland its top choice, but the jury panel (comprised of music industry "experts") voted Poland last, thus thwarting the the "vote for breasts" movement!

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?e ... 3&voter=GB

Without the jury, and with phone voting ONLY, our top three would have been:

Poland - 12
Netherlands - 10
Austria - 8

instead of:

Austria - 12
Malta - 10
Netherlands - 8